apple had 8 of 10 best selling phones in 2022

[Andy Burnelli]

You are not serious. That is a question of philosophy and other
hardware/software used. An Android never makes sense for a Mac-user.

Not true. I used to use an Android phone, but to get the features I wanted
I need to sound increasing amounts so just ended jumping over to iphone.
This was quite a few years ago now so things may be different today.

Since I care about facts, I'd be interested in what "features" Chris wanted
are in the iPhone that aren't (usually long ago) in Android already.

Since the iKooks never actually state definitively what those features are
(and yes, nospam cuts and pastes Apple's hundreds of trademarks), I don't
expect there to be any that are not creatures of the walled garden.

Notice very clearly the astute point being made above... please...

a. If it's done well inside the walled garden,
b. Then Apple makes sure it won't work well outside the walled garden.

*The walled garden is Apple's fundamental marketing strategy*

The iKooks don't understand Apple successfully employs Tonya Harding
tactics, where Apple treats Android/Windows/Linux as Nancy Kerrigan.

HINT: Consider the Windows iTunes abomination as a classic example.

[Andy Burnelli]

I think I have an idea what I'm talking about. I use iPhones since 2008
and Nexus/Pixels since 2016. Android phones despite being cheaper they
are a waste of money for a Mac-user. BTW: I use Macs since 2005.

I'm pleased for you.
Your experience isn't the same mine: as a Mac user I was perfectly capable
of also using an Android phone.

Hi Chris,

This is intended to be an adult discourse based on the two quotes above.

While Joerg only regurgitates what he was fed by Apple to believe, I own
both platforms and use both daily where the main DIFFERENCES between the
platforms are in the walled garden and in crippled functionality.

Other than that, like Chris astutely assessed, anyone with any normal
intelligence can easily use the two platforms to do the main things.
a. Communicate via cell & messaging
b. Interact with the Internet via browsers & other apps

Where iOS excels over Android, IMHO, is _inside_ the walled garden, e.g.,
when interacting with Apple product lines, although Android, with some
effort, can be made to interact with Apple products (not as easily though).

*That's just an honest assessment of fact.*

Where Android excels over iOS, IMHO, is that you can do anything you want
to do with it because Google allows apps that Apple won't allow (such as
fake GPS mock location spoofing or automatic call recorders or Wi-Fi and
cellular graphical signal strength debugging tools, etc.).

*That's just an honest assessment of fact.*

Where Android also excels over iOS, IMHO, is you can even do things that
you want to do but which Google does not allow on their app store (such as
FOSS YouTube clients, and FOSS Google Play Store clients, and FOSS mail
user agents which don't create a mothership account on the device, and FOSS
system-wide on-device firewalls which also perform ad blocking, etc.).

*That's just an honest assessment of fact.*

In summary, if you remain completely inside the walled garden, then iOS
devices work better (in some ways) than do Android and Windows/Linux; but
if you stray out side the walled garden, then the only place iOS works as
well as Android is in communication (phone & messaging); but nowhere else.

[Thomas E.]

Post by Andy Burnelli

You are not serious. That is a question of philosophy and other
hardware/software used. An Android never makes sense for a Mac-user.

Not true. I used to use an Android phone, but to get the features I wanted
I need to sound increasing amounts so just ended jumping over to iphone.
This was quite a few years ago now so things may be different today.

Since I care about facts, I'd be interested in what "features" Chris wanted
are in the iPhone that aren't (usually long ago) in Android already.
Since the iKooks never actually state definitively what those features are
(and yes, nospam cuts and pastes Apple's hundreds of trademarks), I don't
expect there to be any that are not creatures of the walled garden.
Notice very clearly the astute point being made above... please...
a. If it's done well inside the walled garden,
b. Then Apple makes sure it won't work well outside the walled garden.
*The walled garden is Apple's fundamental marketing strategy*
The iKooks don't understand Apple successfully employs Tonya Harding
tactics, where Apple treats Android/Windows/Linux as Nancy Kerrigan.
HINT: Consider the Windows iTunes abomination as a classic example.

I must not be a kook since I posted several very useful features baked into iOS that Android lacks, not reply from you.