John
2024-02-28 02:32:58 UTC
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-hh
2024-02-29 02:34:57 UTC
John <***@nospam.com> wrote:
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus taking an
underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up with some external HDDs and
sharing them.
-hh
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus taking an
underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up with some external HDDs and
sharing them.
-hh
candycanearter07
2024-02-29 16:05:08 UTC
Post by -hh
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus taking an
underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up with some external HDDs and
sharing them.
-hh
Hello!Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus taking an
underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up with some external HDDs and
sharing them.
-hh
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Alan
2024-02-29 22:35:58 UTC
Post by -hh
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus taking an
underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up with some external HDDs and
sharing them.
Would you really save much by reusing the Mini?Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus taking an
underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up with some external HDDs and
sharing them.
-hh
2024-03-01 13:31:49 UTC
Post by Alan
Probably some. First, the Mini is currently doing nothing important,[-hh wrote]
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
Would you really save much by reusing the Mini?Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
so it is "free" vs buying a Synology NAS (probably the DS1522+ ($700);
for its storage pool, I have a decent number of external HDD's that I
could technically reuse .. for the drives to go therein, I have a huge
stack of "small" (under 8TB) capacities.
Probably the big technical question is given the age of some of these
legacy HDD cases, they could have max drive capacity constraints
which would prevent me pulling their existing small 1-2TB drives and
replacing them with 10TB's to reuse the external drive cases. A
"short list" example to look into first are a pair of ~ten year old
USB/FW400 NewerTech dual HDD cases.
-hh
Alan
2024-03-02 19:18:59 UTC
Post by Alan
Probably some. First, the Mini is currently doing nothing important,[-hh wrote]
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
Would you really save much by reusing the Mini?Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
so it is "free" vs buying a Synology NAS (probably the DS1522+ ($700);
for its storage pool, I have a decent number of external HDD's that I
could technically reuse .. for the drives to go therein, I have a huge
stack of "small" (under 8TB) capacities.
If both the "brain" of the NAS and the drives are sunk cost, the yeah,
the Mini will save you.
Probably the big technical question is given the age of some of these
legacy HDD cases, they could have max drive capacity constraints
which would prevent me pulling their existing small 1-2TB drives and
replacing them with 10TB's to reuse the external drive cases. A
"short list" example to look into first are a pair of ~ten year old
USB/FW400 NewerTech dual HDD cases.
Honestly, there is a hassle factor that I would be trying to avoid aslegacy HDD cases, they could have max drive capacity constraints
which would prevent me pulling their existing small 1-2TB drives and
replacing them with 10TB's to reuse the external drive cases. A
"short list" example to look into first are a pair of ~ten year old
USB/FW400 NewerTech dual HDD cases.
well. You might save a few dollars by reusing the Mini, but doing all
the research to see what your drive enclosures can support, and manually
configuring a RAID...
...how many hours do you want to spend?
-hh
2024-03-12 10:40:07 UTC
Post by Alan
so it is "free" vs buying a Synology NAS (probably the DS1522+ ($700);
for its storage pool, I have a decent number of external HDD's that I
could technically reuse .. for the drives to go therein, I have a huge
stack of "small" (under 8TB) capacities.
Ah! That changes the equation quite a bit.
Indeed.Post by Alan
Probably some. First, the Mini is currently doing nothing important,[-hh wrote]
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
Would you really save much by reusing the Mini?Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
so it is "free" vs buying a Synology NAS (probably the DS1522+ ($700);
for its storage pool, I have a decent number of external HDD's that I
could technically reuse .. for the drives to go therein, I have a huge
stack of "small" (under 8TB) capacities.
Post by Alan
If both the "brain" of the NAS and the drives are sunk cost, the yeah,
the Mini will save you.
Well, the mini is a sunk cost, as is also the existing NAS, but buyingIf both the "brain" of the NAS and the drives are sunk cost, the yeah,
the Mini will save you.
another NAS (for more storage capacity) isn't a sunk cost. Question is
really if using the mini for this purpose is reasonable or not. Answer
to that comes down to the potential cost of external HDDs that I already
have which would be 'free', as opposed to buying new HDDs for filling a
new NAS.
Post by Alan
well. You might save a few dollars by reusing the Mini, but doing all
the research to see what your drive enclosures can support, and manually
configuring a RAID...
...how many hours do you want to spend?
Ideally, zero :-)Probably the big technical question is given the age of some of these
legacy HDD cases, they could have max drive capacity constraints
which would prevent me pulling their existing small 1-2TB drives and
replacing them with 10TB's to reuse the external drive cases. A
"short list" example to look into first are a pair of ~ten year old
USB/FW400 NewerTech dual HDD cases.
Honestly, there is a hassle factor that I would be trying to avoid aslegacy HDD cases, they could have max drive capacity constraints
which would prevent me pulling their existing small 1-2TB drives and
replacing them with 10TB's to reuse the external drive cases. A
"short list" example to look into first are a pair of ~ten year old
USB/FW400 NewerTech dual HDD cases.
well. You might save a few dollars by reusing the Mini, but doing all
the research to see what your drive enclosures can support, and manually
configuring a RAID...
...how many hours do you want to spend?
But I'm figuring that a few hours is okay, especially since it would
need to do an inventory all of the HDDs that I've accumulated over the
years, and verify my redundant data backups, which I'm quite delinquent
in having done anyway, so a chunk of this touch labor is notionally
being "paid for" by this other existing 'maintenance overhead' task.
-hh
-hh
2024-05-08 13:41:17 UTC
Post by -hh
another NAS (for more storage capacity) isn't a sunk cost. Question is
really if using the mini for this purpose is reasonable or not. Answer
to that comes down to the potential cost of external HDDs that I already
have which would be 'free', as opposed to buying new HDDs for filling a
new NAS.
Well, an update:Post by Alan
so it is "free" vs buying a Synology NAS (probably the DS1522+ ($700);
for its storage pool, I have a decent number of external HDD's that I
could technically reuse .. for the drives to go therein, I have a huge
stack of "small" (under 8TB) capacities.
Ah! That changes the equation quite a bit.
Indeed.Post by Alan
Probably some. First, the Mini is currently doing nothing important,[-hh wrote]
Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
Would you really save much by reusing the Mini?Yeah, still checking in periodically. With the demise of GG, it’s a lot
less convenient, as it’s now a “go launch an app” instead of having a
webpage interface.
Meantime, I’ve been starting to debate getting a new NAS, versus
taking an underutilized Mac mini I have and load it up
with some external HDDs and sharing them.
so it is "free" vs buying a Synology NAS (probably the DS1522+ ($700);
for its storage pool, I have a decent number of external HDD's that I
could technically reuse .. for the drives to go therein, I have a huge
stack of "small" (under 8TB) capacities.
Post by Alan
If both the "brain" of the NAS and the drives are sunk cost, the yeah,
the Mini will save you.
Well, the mini is a sunk cost, as is also the existing NAS, but buyingIf both the "brain" of the NAS and the drives are sunk cost, the yeah,
the Mini will save you.
another NAS (for more storage capacity) isn't a sunk cost. Question is
really if using the mini for this purpose is reasonable or not. Answer
to that comes down to the potential cost of external HDDs that I already
have which would be 'free', as opposed to buying new HDDs for filling a
new NAS.
There was a discount run last month on some Synology NAS's so I picked
up a new one, along with some HDDs to stuff into it.
I also repurposed some existing NVMe's to add a cache to it, but made
the mistake of setting up the HDDs first, which means that the cache
wasn't available to speed things up. Lesson learned for next time.
Migrated from the old NAS to the new ... took a couple of days, as the
data is being pushed across just a 1GBe Ethernet connection.
Starting to look at some other things...
Synology has a hybrid RAID (SHR) that's apparently pretty good; went
with the "One-Drive Fault Tolerance" (SHR1) over 3 drives..its like
RAID5, but apparently easier to later expand to more drives.
Synology's "Hyper Backup" App ... since I'm no longer RAID1, a good idea
to start to have some more discipline to be backing up the backup.
Network .. time to start to look at finding an affordable 10GbE Ethernet
switch, as the Mac Studio is already 10GbE and there's a PCIe expansion
card for the NAS that can make it 10GbE too. So far, it seems that
pickings which have RJ45 connections at 10GbE are slim, but that's a way
to save the expense of a couple of SPF+ converters.
Post by -hh
But I'm figuring that a few hours is okay, especially since it would
need to do an inventory all of the HDDs that I've accumulated over the
years, and verify my redundant data backups, which I'm quite delinquent
in having done anyway, so a chunk of this touch labor is notionally
being "paid for" by this other existing 'maintenance overhead' task.
-hh
And of course, through all of this, the mini has been parked to the sidePost by Alan
well. You might save a few dollars by reusing the Mini, but doing all
the research to see what your drive enclosures can support, and
manually configuring a RAID...
...how many hours do you want to spend?
Ideally, zero :-)Probably the big technical question is given the age of some of these
legacy HDD cases, they could have max drive capacity constraints
which would prevent me pulling their existing small 1-2TB drives and
replacing them with 10TB's to reuse the external drive cases. A
"short list" example to look into first are a pair of ~ten year old
USB/FW400 NewerTech dual HDD cases.
Honestly, there is a hassle factor that I would be trying to avoid aslegacy HDD cases, they could have max drive capacity constraints
which would prevent me pulling their existing small 1-2TB drives and
replacing them with 10TB's to reuse the external drive cases. A
"short list" example to look into first are a pair of ~ten year old
USB/FW400 NewerTech dual HDD cases.
well. You might save a few dollars by reusing the Mini, but doing all
the research to see what your drive enclosures can support, and
manually configuring a RAID...
...how many hours do you want to spend?
But I'm figuring that a few hours is okay, especially since it would
need to do an inventory all of the HDDs that I've accumulated over the
years, and verify my redundant data backups, which I'm quite delinquent
in having done anyway, so a chunk of this touch labor is notionally
being "paid for" by this other existing 'maintenance overhead' task.
-hh
for awhile (again) along with the inventory of intermediate sized HDDs.
So that's still yet another project.
-hh
David Brooks
2024-03-25 08:27:20 UTC
On 28/02/2024 02:32, John wrote:
Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
candycanearter07
2024-03-25 15:20:12 UTC
Post by David Brooks
Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
Hiya! There's still plenty of people around!Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
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David Brooks
2024-03-25 21:51:53 UTC
Post by candycanearter07
Good news! 🙂Post by David Brooks
Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
Hiya! There's still plenty of people around!Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
I don't recognise this fella .....
Loading Image...
Who or what is he/it?!!!
candycanearter07
2024-03-26 15:40:13 UTC
Post by David Brooks
I don't recognise this fella .....
https://i.ibb.co/TtjVBqX/BBCF4-CED-C0-CA-4-F21-9954-1784904-F8-D8-E-4-5005-c.jpg
Who or what is he/it?!!!
Oh, its a slime character I made. His name's sappy ^^Post by candycanearter07
Good news! 🙂Post by David Brooks
Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
Hiya! There's still plenty of people around!Hello John! 🙂
I've just popped in to say "Hello"!
I use Thunderbird to read Usenet messages - it works REALLY well nowadays!
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
It's free - although contributions are very welcome!
I don't recognise this fella .....
https://i.ibb.co/TtjVBqX/BBCF4-CED-C0-CA-4-F21-9954-1784904-F8-D8-E-4-5005-c.jpg
Who or what is he/it?!!!
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