Another tale of Windows idiocy: the mouse scroll wheel.

Post by Alan
I'm sitting here, forced to use a Windows desktop (and I'm remembering
all over how terribly UGLY Windows is) while I wait for migration to
complete on my new M3 MacBook Air, and I thought I would reverse the
scrolling direction on the mouse to be more like what I'm used to.
Now, honestly, I'm quite adaptable as I work with lots of different
systems, and have to simply roll with whatever my client at any moment
uses, but...
...I assumed this would be an obvious control to have somewhere in the
broken mess that is Settings and Control Panel mouse settings.
I opened Settings...
...checked the various things you change about the mouse there...
...and... ...nothing. Nothing useful to this case anyway.
Then I remembered that Microsoft's settings for the mouse are
idiotically broken across two different interfaces, so I checked Control
Panel...
...and still nothing.
The only solution to changing the scrolling direction of the mouse in
Windows is...
...TO CHANGE THE REGISTRY!

I found this - it confirms what you claim!

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reverse-mouse-wheel-scroll/657c4537-f346-4b8b-99f8-9e1f52cd94c2

It also provides a solution.

=

Is you M3 MacBook Air now 'up and running'?

candycanearter07

2024-04-02 15:20:13 UTC

I found this - it confirms what you claim!
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reverse-mouse-wheel-scroll/657c4537-f346-4b8b-99f8-9e1f52cd94c2
It also provides a solution.
=
Is you M3 MacBook Air now 'up and running'?

No way...that's actually insane. Even something as restricted as
ChromeOS provides that option in the settings.

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-hh

2024-04-06 23:34:46 UTC

I found this - it confirms what you claim!
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reverse-mouse-wheel-scroll/657c4537-f346-4b8b-99f8-9e1f52cd94c2
It also provides a solution.

...
No way...that's actually insane. Even something as restricted as
ChromeOS provides that option in the settings.

There's invariably going to be elements of any UI that aren't changeable
(see car steering wheel for which way it turns), but within computer
software there's far fewer actual physical restrictions.

Overall, it is a "less freedom", but it also seems likely that MS paid
attention to how few users actually chose to invert the control of the
wheel. Wonder if anyone actually has user UI statistics on that?

-hh

candycanearter07

2024-04-07 14:50:02 UTC

I found this - it confirms what you claim!
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reverse-mouse-wheel-scroll/657c4537-f346-4b8b-99f8-9e1f52cd94c2
It also provides a solution.

...
No way...that's actually insane. Even something as restricted as
ChromeOS provides that option in the settings.

There's invariably going to be elements of any UI that aren't changeable
(see car steering wheel for which way it turns), but within computer
software there's far fewer actual physical restrictions.
Overall, it is a "less freedom", but it also seems likely that MS paid
attention to how few users actually chose to invert the control of the
wheel. Wonder if anyone actually has user UI statistics on that?
-hh

Probably, but it still kinda sucks to not have the option.

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Alan

2024-04-07 20:01:00 UTC

I found this - it confirms what you claim!
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reverse-mouse-wheel-scroll/657c4537-f346-4b8b-99f8-9e1f52cd94c2
It also provides a solution.

...
No way...that's actually insane. Even something as restricted as
ChromeOS provides that option in the settings.

There's invariably going to be elements of any UI that aren't changeable
(see car steering wheel for which way it turns), but within computer
software there's far fewer actual physical restrictions.
Overall, it is a "less freedom", but it also seems likely that MS paid
attention to how few users actually chose to invert the control of the
wheel. Wonder if anyone actually has user UI statistics on that?

If MS paid attention how many people inverted a control they can only
invert on Windows, H?

Would that be a little bit like paying attention to the number of users
that used a mouse back when MS-DOS had no support for one?

:-)

-hh

2024-04-10 23:07:03 UTC

Post by Alan

I found this - it confirms what you claim!
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reverse-mouse-wheel-scroll/657c4537-f346-4b8b-99f8-9e1f52cd94c2
It also provides a solution.

...
No way...that's actually insane. Even something as restricted as
ChromeOS provides that option in the settings.

There's invariably going to be elements of any UI that aren't
changeable (see car steering wheel for which way it turns), but within
computer software there's far fewer actual physical restrictions.
Overall, it is a "less freedom", but it also seems likely that MS
paid attention to how few users actually chose to invert the control
of the wheel. Wonder if anyone actually has user UI statistics on that?

If MS paid attention how many people inverted a control they can only
invert on Windows, H?

I think it really comes down to how many MS software developers actually
want that feature for themselves, such that they'll DIY it (or put in
the change request, etc).

Post by Alan
Would that be a little bit like paying attention to the number of users
that used a mouse back when MS-DOS had no support for one?
:-)

More like how Apple's Disk Utility abolished its ability to support RAID
in one of the OSX updates ... and then was surprised that their
tech-savvy customers screamed.

-hh

candycanearter07

2024-04-11 14:50:14 UTC

[snip]

Post by Alan
If MS paid attention how many people inverted a control they can only
invert on Windows, H?

I think it really comes down to how many MS software developers actually
want that feature for themselves, such that they'll DIY it (or put in
the change request, etc).

Post by Alan
Would that be a little bit like paying attention to the number of users
that used a mouse back when MS-DOS had no support for one?
:-)

More like how Apple's Disk Utility abolished its ability to support RAID
in one of the OSX updates ... and then was surprised that their
tech-savvy customers screamed.
-hh

Even regular user features get removed... like WinAero and Gadgets.

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Danart

2024-05-07 05:04:17 UTC

Post by Alan
I'm sitting here, forced to use a Windows desktop (and I'

remembering

Post by Alan
all over how terribly UGLY Windows is) while I wait for migratio

Post by Alan
complete on my new M3 MacBook Air, and I thought I would revers

the

Post by Alan
scrolling direction on the mouse to be more like what I'm used to
Now, honestly, I'm quite adaptable as I work with lots of differen
systems, and have to simply roll with whatever my client at an

moment

Post by Alan
uses, but..
....I assumed this would be an obvious control to have somewhere i

the

Post by Alan
broken mess that is Settings and Control Panel mouse settings
I opened Settings..
....checked the various things you change about the mouse there..
....and... ...nothing. Nothing useful to this case anyway
Then I remembered that Microsoft's settings for the mouse are
idiotically broken across two different interfaces, so I checke

Control

Post by Alan
Panel..
....and still nothing
So I check online and would you look at that
The only solution to changing the scrolling direction of the mous

Post by Alan
Windows is..
....TO CHANGE THE REGISTRY

Just buy a wireless mouse
keyboard combo like the ones from logitech and so many other choices

If not then get a track-pad ( those red ball thingies )

Why are you still using those out of date things? For the scrol
button

1980's Japan had the "Electric Pen" in it's art departmen
and even made game-peripheral for a system.
Even early 19X0's Russia had pre-photoshop ( used for erasing peopl
from images ). Truth be told the
electric-pen has been used for computers in the DOS and Amiga years a
well.

For most western people we had to use a stupid mouse with a stupi
pad, rolling in gum. Stupid.

Like Robocop I can "use my finger" to scroll on the pad wit
movements via the buttons an fn-keys

This is a response to the post seen at
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=662828187#66282818

Alan

2024-05-07 20:35:54 UTC