Discussion:
Why do iMessage & Facetime require constant logging in, while Google Voice does not?
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Andy Burnelli
2023-03-23 02:58:05 UTC
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Why does FaceTime & iMessage require constant repetitive logging in,
while Google Voice, Safari, the App Store & iOS upgrades do not?

Despite multiple daily nagging by Apple to repeatedly confirm my Apple ID
on the Apple mothership tracking servers, I have refused for years
<Loading Image...> Apple requires frequent login!

Eventually Apple locked me out, unilaterally, of Facetime & iMessage.
That's no loss whatsoever, but the experimental results are what matter.
<Loading Image...> Apple _forces_ a log in!

It's clear that you must repeatedly sign into Apple mothership tracking
servers in order to use some of the more trackable apps, which is shown.
<Loading Image...> Apple _forces_ extra logins!

Note that you're logged in which is shown by the fact you can update iOS.
<Loading Image...> iPadOS 16.3.1 is available
<Loading Image...> 16.3.1 Update Requested
<Loading Image...> About 10 minutes remaining
<Loading Image...> Preparing Update
<Loading Image...> Downloaded
<Loading Image...> Finish Setting Up iPad
<Loading Image...> More for your iPad
<Loading Image...> Update Apple ID Settings
<Loading Image...> iPadOS Version 16.3.1
<Loading Image...> Sign in to iCloud
<Loading Image...> Finished Setting up iPad
<Loading Image...> Verifying update...

However, you _must_ periodically log into other Apple mothership trackers.
<Loading Image...> Apple forces periodic login
<Loading Image...> into its mothership trackers
<Loading Image...> Safari & Chrome work fine
<Loading Image...> So does Youtube work fine
<Loading Image...> No problem with web pages
<Loading Image...> The walled garden fails
<Loading Image...> iMessage walled garden fails
<Loading Image...> FaceTime walled garden fails
<Loading Image...> App Store works mostly fine
<Loading Image...> App Store installs apps
<Loading Image...> But it won't do iCloud
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An example of something similar to iMessage is Google Voice, which, let's be
very clear, does NOT require us to do what Apple's iMessage requires of us.

Why is that?

*Why does iMessage require constant logging in, while GV does not?*
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
--
If you ask any adult question of an iKook, expect a child-like response.
Alan
2023-03-23 03:03:14 UTC
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Post by Andy Burnelli
Why does FaceTime & iMessage require constant repetitive logging in,
while Google Voice, Safari, the App Store & iOS upgrades do not?
You're lying or ignorant...

...or more likely, both:

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZzWeExnDV51B_Ulb76WUzlPaeRXSQXci/view?usp=share_link>

Looks like it wanted me to be signed into Google, doesn't it...

...Asshole.
Thomas E.
2023-03-27 19:59:02 UTC
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Post by Andy Burnelli
Why does FaceTime & iMessage require constant repetitive logging in,
while Google Voice, Safari, the App Store & iOS upgrades do not?
Despite multiple daily nagging by Apple to repeatedly confirm my Apple ID
on the Apple mothership tracking servers, I have refused for years
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple requires frequent login!
Eventually Apple locked me out, unilaterally, of Facetime & iMessage.
That's no loss whatsoever, but the experimental results are what matter.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
It's clear that you must repeatedly sign into Apple mothership tracking
servers in order to use some of the more trackable apps, which is shown.
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
Note that you're logged in which is shown by the fact you can update iOS.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hvhgB91S/update01.jpg> iPadOS 16.3.1 is available
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qtfsw654/update02.jpg> 16.3.1 Update Requested
<https://i.postimg.cc/vmLGL8md/update03.jpg> About 10 minutes remaining
<https://i.postimg.cc/d11gkJk6/update04.jpg> Preparing Update
<https://i.postimg.cc/rw1B7n21/update05.jpg> Downloaded
<https://i.postimg.cc/yN7MKm7w/update06.jpg> Finish Setting Up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/13DSsRwN/update07.jpg> More for your iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Xv80B22j/update08.jpg> Update Apple ID Settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/TYLGNJP0/update09.jpg> iPadOS Version 16.3.1
<https://i.postimg.cc/L509Yy8Y/update10.jpg> Sign in to iCloud
<https://i.postimg.cc/zvfDfm8Y/update11.jpg> Finished Setting up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Nbnxtn/update12.jpg> Verifying update...
However, you _must_ periodically log into other Apple mothership trackers.
<https://i.postimg.cc/9XtgRz0y/mothership01.jpg> Apple forces periodic login
<https://i.postimg.cc/q73jkvWh/mothership02.jpg> into its mothership trackers
<https://i.postimg.cc/7hmNBGJc/mothership03.jpg> Safari & Chrome work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/GhmK4QZ1/mothership04.jpg> So does Youtube work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/vBv7BghB/mothership05.jpg> No problem with web pages
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjtyVmqp/mothership06.jpg> The walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/ht79m3sN/mothership07.jpg> iMessage walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/5tBL7YZ3/mothership08.jpg> FaceTime walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store works mostly fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do iCloud
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An example of something similar to iMessage is Google Voice, which, let's be
very clear, does NOT require us to do what Apple's iMessage requires of us.
Why is that?
*Why does iMessage require constant logging in, while GV does not?*
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
--
If you ask any adult question of an iKook, expect a child-like response.
WTF? I have had an Apple phone for about 5 years now and have NEVER been asked to logon for iMessage send or receive.
-hh
2023-03-28 12:03:57 UTC
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Post by Thomas E.
Post by Andy Burnelli
Why does FaceTime & iMessage require constant repetitive logging in,
while Google Voice, Safari, the App Store & iOS upgrades do not?
Despite multiple daily nagging by Apple to repeatedly confirm my Apple ID
on the Apple mothership tracking servers, I have refused for years
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple requires frequent login!
Eventually Apple locked me out, unilaterally, of Facetime & iMessage.
That's no loss whatsoever, but the experimental results are what matter.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
It's clear that you must repeatedly sign into Apple mothership tracking
servers in order to use some of the more trackable apps, which is shown.
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
Note that you're logged in which is shown by the fact you can update iOS.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hvhgB91S/update01.jpg> iPadOS 16.3.1 is available
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qtfsw654/update02.jpg> 16.3.1 Update Requested
<https://i.postimg.cc/vmLGL8md/update03.jpg> About 10 minutes remaining
<https://i.postimg.cc/d11gkJk6/update04.jpg> Preparing Update
<https://i.postimg.cc/rw1B7n21/update05.jpg> Downloaded
<https://i.postimg.cc/yN7MKm7w/update06.jpg> Finish Setting Up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/13DSsRwN/update07.jpg> More for your iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Xv80B22j/update08.jpg> Update Apple ID Settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/TYLGNJP0/update09.jpg> iPadOS Version 16.3.1
<https://i.postimg.cc/L509Yy8Y/update10.jpg> Sign in to iCloud
<https://i.postimg.cc/zvfDfm8Y/update11.jpg> Finished Setting up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Nbnxtn/update12.jpg> Verifying update...
However, you _must_ periodically log into other Apple mothership trackers.
<https://i.postimg.cc/9XtgRz0y/mothership01.jpg> Apple forces periodic login
<https://i.postimg.cc/q73jkvWh/mothership02.jpg> into its mothership trackers
<https://i.postimg.cc/7hmNBGJc/mothership03.jpg> Safari & Chrome work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/GhmK4QZ1/mothership04.jpg> So does Youtube work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/vBv7BghB/mothership05.jpg> No problem with web pages
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjtyVmqp/mothership06.jpg> The walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/ht79m3sN/mothership07.jpg> iMessage walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/5tBL7YZ3/mothership08.jpg> FaceTime walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store works mostly fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do iCloud
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An example of something similar to iMessage is Google Voice, which, let's be
very clear, does NOT require us to do what Apple's iMessage requires of us.
Why is that?
*Why does iMessage require constant logging in, while GV does not?*
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
--
If you ask any adult question of an iKook, expect a child-like response.
WTF? I have had an Apple phone for about 5 years now and have NEVER been asked to logon for iMessage send or receive.
Don't feed the troll.


-hh
Thomas E.
2023-03-28 21:20:11 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by Thomas E.
Post by Andy Burnelli
Why does FaceTime & iMessage require constant repetitive logging in,
while Google Voice, Safari, the App Store & iOS upgrades do not?
Despite multiple daily nagging by Apple to repeatedly confirm my Apple ID
on the Apple mothership tracking servers, I have refused for years
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple requires frequent login!
Eventually Apple locked me out, unilaterally, of Facetime & iMessage.
That's no loss whatsoever, but the experimental results are what matter.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
It's clear that you must repeatedly sign into Apple mothership tracking
servers in order to use some of the more trackable apps, which is shown.
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
Note that you're logged in which is shown by the fact you can update iOS.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hvhgB91S/update01.jpg> iPadOS 16.3.1 is available
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qtfsw654/update02.jpg> 16.3.1 Update Requested
<https://i.postimg.cc/vmLGL8md/update03.jpg> About 10 minutes remaining
<https://i.postimg.cc/d11gkJk6/update04.jpg> Preparing Update
<https://i.postimg.cc/rw1B7n21/update05.jpg> Downloaded
<https://i.postimg.cc/yN7MKm7w/update06.jpg> Finish Setting Up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/13DSsRwN/update07.jpg> More for your iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Xv80B22j/update08.jpg> Update Apple ID Settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/TYLGNJP0/update09.jpg> iPadOS Version 16.3.1
<https://i.postimg.cc/L509Yy8Y/update10.jpg> Sign in to iCloud
<https://i.postimg.cc/zvfDfm8Y/update11.jpg> Finished Setting up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Nbnxtn/update12.jpg> Verifying update...
However, you _must_ periodically log into other Apple mothership trackers.
<https://i.postimg.cc/9XtgRz0y/mothership01.jpg> Apple forces periodic login
<https://i.postimg.cc/q73jkvWh/mothership02.jpg> into its mothership trackers
<https://i.postimg.cc/7hmNBGJc/mothership03.jpg> Safari & Chrome work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/GhmK4QZ1/mothership04.jpg> So does Youtube work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/vBv7BghB/mothership05.jpg> No problem with web pages
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjtyVmqp/mothership06.jpg> The walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/ht79m3sN/mothership07.jpg> iMessage walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/5tBL7YZ3/mothership08.jpg> FaceTime walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store works mostly fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do iCloud
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An example of something similar to iMessage is Google Voice, which, let's be
very clear, does NOT require us to do what Apple's iMessage requires of us.
Why is that?
*Why does iMessage require constant logging in, while GV does not?*
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
--
If you ask any adult question of an iKook, expect a child-like response.
WTF? I have had an Apple phone for about 5 years now and have NEVER been asked to logon for iMessage send or receive.
Don't feed the troll.
-hh
He seems to thrive on very little food of substance.

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