Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for the new YELLOW!!!!!! iPhone?

[Andy Burnelli]

Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it"
for the exciting brand new and quite distinct *YELLOW!!!!!!* iPhone?

[Alan]

Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it" for
the exciting brand new and quite distinct *YELLOW!!!!!!* iPhone?

Still so triggered, Arlen?

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Alan

Post by Andy Burnelli
Why does nospam NOT say "nobody wants it" nor that "nobody needs it"
for the exciting brand new and quite distinct *YELLOW!!!!!!* iPhone?

Still so triggered, Arlen?

Apple lives in his mind rent free, 24/7.

[Andy Burnelli]

Post by Jolly Roger
Apple lives in his mind rent free

Apple knows better than anyone what its customer base cares about.

Hence...
*It's a valid question of why this yellow color is both needed & wanted.*

In fact, the answer to the question revealingly points directly to...

*What kind of customer base does the iPhone product really appeal to?*

Hence, it's valid especially given nospam has often claimed firewalls are
not needed and nobody wants them, and when nospam has repeatedly claimed
that gps spoofing is not needed and nobody wants it, and that bigger and
perhaps even removable batteries are not needed and nobody wants them.

Heck, nospam has said that sd cards are not needed and nobody wants them,
and that FM radios are not needed and nobody wants them, and even that the
venerable 3.5mm standard connection jack is not needed & nobody wants it.

It must be observed that the color yellow is, apparently deeply needed.
And, it must be said the color yellow is apparently what everyone wants.

Why is it that the color yellow is desperately needed & everyone wants it?

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Andy Burnelli

Post by Jolly Roger
Apple lives in his mind rent free

Apple
this yellow color
the color yellow
the color yellow
the color yellow

24/7 : )

[nospam]

Post by Andy Burnelli
Hence, it's valid especially given nospam has often claimed firewalls are
not needed and nobody wants them,

i never said that. in fact i said the *opposite*.

the rest of your lies deleted.

[Andy Burnelli]

Post by nospam

Post by Andy Burnelli
Hence, it's valid especially given nospam has often claimed firewalls are
not needed and nobody wants them,

i never said that. in fact i said the *opposite*.

What's more important is the salient observation you haven't yet claimed
that the *NEW! _yellow_ iPhone* is "not needed" and "not wanted", nospam.

Do you know why you think yellow iPhones are desperately needed & wanted?
I do.

HINT: You defend _everything_ Apple does, to the death. No matter what.
But you only have seven excuses for what you _hate_ about Apple products.
One of them is to claim anything Apple can't do is not needed & not wanted.

[Alan]

Post by Andy Burnelli

Post by nospam

Post by Andy Burnelli
Hence, it's valid especially given nospam has often claimed firewalls are
not needed and nobody wants them,

i never said that. in fact i said the *opposite*.

What's more important is the salient observation you haven't yet claimed
that the *NEW! _yellow_ iPhone* is "not needed" and "not wanted", nospam.
Do you know why you think yellow iPhones are desperately needed & wanted?
I do.
HINT: You defend _everything_ Apple does, to the death. No matter what.
But you only have seven excuses for what you _hate_ about Apple products.
One of them is to claim anything Apple can't do is not needed & not wanted.

I know you're not familiar with this term:

"false dichotomy".

[Alan]

Post by Andy Burnelli

Post by Jolly Roger
Apple lives in his mind rent free

Apple knows better than anyone what its customer base cares about.

As do almost all other companies.

Consumers like colour choices, Arelen.

[f***@sdf.org]

Post by Andy Burnelli

Post by Jolly Roger
Apple lives in his mind rent free

Apple knows better than anyone what its customer base cares about.
Hence...
*It's a valid question of why this yellow color is both needed & wanted.*
In fact, the answer to the question revealingly points directly to...
*What kind of customer base does the iPhone product really appeal to?*
Why is it that the color yellow is desperately needed & everyone wants it?

the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

i'd prefer a bare metal iPhone made from copper instead of powder coated
aluminum. it would tarnish on some areas, have a green patina from
corrosion on others, and be bare copper metal on wear areas. like sort
of a steampunk look. :)

[Alan Browne]

Post by f***@sdf.org
i'd prefer a bare metal iPhone made from copper instead of powder coated
aluminum. it would tarnish on some areas, have a green patina from
corrosion on others, and be bare copper metal on wear areas. like sort
of a steampunk look. :)

Could be cool. Hmm, put it in a pressure chamber at a couple bar with
high O2 and get the 'look' quicker?

[Jolly Roger]

Post by f***@sdf.org

Post by Andy Burnelli

Post by Jolly Roger
Apple lives in his mind rent free

Apple knows better than anyone what its customer base cares about.
Hence... *It's a valid question of why this yellow color is both
needed & wanted.*
In fact, the answer to the question revealingly points directly to...
*What kind of customer base does the iPhone product really appeal to?*
Why is it that the color yellow is desperately needed & everyone wants it?

the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

He's sealioning, not asking genuine questions.

Post by f***@sdf.org
i'd prefer a bare metal iPhone made from copper instead of powder
coated aluminum. it would tarnish on some areas, have a green patina
from corrosion on others, and be bare copper metal on wear areas. like
sort of a steampunk look. :)

That would be cool.

[Nic]

Post by f***@sdf.org

Post by Andy Burnelli
Why is it that the color yellow is desperately needed & everyone wants it?

the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

Post by f***@sdf.org
i'd prefer a bare metal iPhone made from copper instead of powder coated
aluminum. it would tarnish on some areas, have a green patina from
corrosion on others, and be bare copper metal on wear areas. like sort
of a steampunk look. :)

It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they do.

[Alan Browne]

Post by Nic

Post by f***@sdf.org
the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

People have preferences for colour whether or not it's "needed".

[RJH]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Nic

Post by f***@sdf.org
the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

People have preferences for colour whether or not it's "needed".

Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone
decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the customer.

[Wilf]

Post by RJH

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Nic

Post by f***@sdf.org
the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

People have preferences for colour whether or not it's "needed".

Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone
decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the customer.

Personally, I think it's reasonable for a manufacturer to decide on
colours, hopefully based on known customer likes and dislikes. But if
you want an iPhone (or any other phone) which is pink with purple and
green dots, say, then just buy the appropriate cover.

[Alan Browne]

Post by RJH

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Nic

Post by f***@sdf.org
the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

People have preferences for colour whether or not it's "needed".

Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone
decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the customer.

Context. Indeed Apple make their design and marketing choices, and push
them. That is, hmm let me look it up .... oh, yeah, got it: Their job.

The degree to which this is "informed" by studying the market, tastes,
trends, desires, histories, forecasts, etc. is part of ... hang, on I
have to look this up ... ah yeah, of course: market research. Which in
turn relies on internal and external inputs. Apple's market research
arm is both large and very, very talented.

How Apple filter the results and make such a design choice is up to them
and there is no guarantee it is "right" or will bear the hoped for fruit.

What I find odd in this is that there was only one colour offered up -
Would have thought 3 or 4 would make more sense. But they had their
reasons - and no need to offer those up.

IAC: Apple are not forcing anyone to buy it - but they have a duty to
themselves and shareholders to push it.

[badgolferman]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by RJH

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Nic

Post by f***@sdf.org
the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black
because that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a
reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

People have preferences for colour whether or not it's "needed".

Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple
alone decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the
customer.

Context. Indeed Apple make their design and marketing choices, and
Their job.
The degree to which this is "informed" by studying the market,
tastes, trends, desires, histories, forecasts, etc. is part of ...
hang, on I have to look this up ... ah yeah, of course: market
research. Which in turn relies on internal and external inputs.
Apple's market research arm is both large and very, very talented.
How Apple filter the results and make such a design choice is up to
them and there is no guarantee it is "right" or will bear the hoped
for fruit.
What I find odd in this is that there was only one colour offered up
- Would have thought 3 or 4 would make more sense. But they had
their reasons - and no need to offer those up.
IAC: Apple are not forcing anyone to buy it - but they have a duty to
themselves and shareholders to push it.

How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
trick question.

I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
functionally. Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by badgolferman
How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not
a trick question.

It's also not very interesting or relevant.

Post by badgolferman
I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
functionally. Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

So what? Many companies release products with new colors or options mid
cycle. This is nothing new - yet because Apple did it this one time, you
and your little weak trollboi cohort decided to troll about it because
Apple: BAD. The fact that you people are *this* upset by something so
trivial, and spending literal *days* trolling about it says a whole lot
about your psychological constitution - and it's pretty pathetic. ; )

[Alan Browne]

Post by badgolferman

Post by Alan Browne
What I find odd in this is that there was only one colour offered up
- Would have thought 3 or 4 would make more sense. But they had
their reasons - and no need to offer those up.
IAC: Apple are not forcing anyone to buy it - but they have a duty to
themselves and shareholders to push it.

How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
trick question.

I don't recall specifically, but it seems in the past they have offered
a mid term color upgrade of more than 1 colour on various products. Not
something I get very worked up about as it is deep in my "so what?" zone.

Post by badgolferman
I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
functionally. Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

Let them scoff. And yes, Apple management has a duty to the company and
even those pesky shareholders to lift sales figures.

[nospam]

Post by badgolferman
How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
trick question.

that depends on the product, but generally mid-cycle.

Post by badgolferman
I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
functionally.

apple has been doing that for several years.

Post by badgolferman
Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

it's not a ploy. there is a *huge* sales spike in the holiday quarter
(although this past year, that was supply-constrained). the spring
quarter is generally slower, so they add another colour to smooth out
the peaks. nothing unusual about that and not unique to apple.

[mike]

Post by nospam
it's not a ploy. there is a *huge* sales spike in the holiday quarter
(although this past year, that was supply-constrained). the spring
quarter is generally slower, so they add another colour to smooth out
the peaks. nothing unusual about that and not unique to apple.

In other words that yellow iPhone is not only needed but also it's wanted.

It's that pesky crazy hardware like sd cards which nobody needs nor wants.

[Alan]

Post by mike

Post by nospam
it's not a ploy. there is a *huge* sales spike in the holiday quarter
(although this past year, that was supply-constrained). the spring
quarter is generally slower, so they add another colour to smooth out
the peaks. nothing unusual about that and not unique to apple.

In other words that yellow iPhone is not only needed but also it's wanted.
It's that pesky crazy hardware like sd cards which nobody needs nor wants.

You're discovering the difference between aesthetics and utility choices
in consumer products.

Congratulations!

[dan]

Post by badgolferman
How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
trick question.

Whenever an iPhone has flagging sales, Apple releases a new bold color.
Only Apple knows why that's a very successful iPhone sales boost strategy.

Post by badgolferman
I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
functionally.

It's nothing more than coat of paint which Apple knows will reinvigorate
iPhone sales until the USB-C iPhone is released to even greater fanfare.

Post by badgolferman
Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

It must have something to do with the type of customer Apple appeals to.

[Alan]

Post by dan

Post by badgolferman
How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
trick question.

Whenever an iPhone has flagging sales, Apple releases a new bold color.
Only Apple knows why that's a very successful iPhone sales boost strategy.

Post by badgolferman
I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
functionally.

It's nothing more than coat of paint which Apple knows will reinvigorate
iPhone sales until the USB-C iPhone is released to even greater fanfare.

Post by badgolferman
Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

It must have something to do with the type of customer Apple appeals to.

Sneering is such a great pose.

[nospam]

Post by RJH
Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone
decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the customer.

nobody ever said that, liar.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by RJH

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Nic

Post by f***@sdf.org
the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black
because that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

People have preferences for colour whether or not it's "needed".

Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone
decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the
customer.

You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said
is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And
that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well
with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.

[nospam]

Post by Jolly Roger

Post by RJH
Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone
decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the customer.

You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said
is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And
that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well
with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.

it's not just apple either. every company does that, to varying degrees
of success. to not focus on what potential customers want so is
foolish.

[badgolferman]

Post by nospam

Post by RJH
Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple

alone > decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not
the > customer.
You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has actually been
said is that Apple knows better than you what their customers
want. And that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and
doesn't sell well with their own customers than any troll on
Usenet.

it's not just apple either. every company does that, to varying
degrees of success. to not focus on what potential customers want so
is foolish.

Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

[nospam]

Post by badgolferman
Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

neither.

they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of factors.
some colours end up being more popular than others, which feeds back
into what colours they might introduce in the future.

the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
iphone in yellow.

those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.

if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it will
be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.

on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows the
exact breakdown of each colour.

it ain't just apple:
<Loading Image...>

[badgolferman]

Post by nospam

Post by badgolferman
Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

neither.
they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of factors.
some colours end up being more popular than others, which feeds back
into what colours they might introduce in the future.
the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
iphone in yellow.
those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.
if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it will
be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.
on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows the
exact breakdown of each colour.
<https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/38016-xlarge/HTC-8X-2ad.jpg>

“colour” ?

I thought you were in America. We don’t spell it that way. Where are you
anyway?

[Jolly Roger]

Post by badgolferman

Post by nospam

Post by badgolferman
Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or
are Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

neither.
they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of
factors. some colours end up being more popular than others, which
feeds back into what colours they might introduce in the future.
the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
iphone in yellow.
those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.
if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it
will be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.
on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows
the exact breakdown of each colour.
<https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/38016-xlarge/HTC-8X-2ad.jpg>

“colour” ?
I thought you were in America. We don’t spell it that way. Where are
you anyway?

Irrelevant. You really have nothing constructive to add to the
conversation, do you? You completely ignore any reasonable discussion
about this. You're just here to troll.

[nospam]

³colour² ?

that's the first you've noticed that?

[badgolferman]

Post by nospam

³colour² ?

that's the first you've noticed that?

I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
it many times...

[Alan]

Post by badgolferman

Post by nospam

³colour² ?

that's the first you've noticed that?

I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
it many times...

And this is the least bit important... ...how?

[Alan Browne]

Post by Alan

Post by badgolferman

Post by nospam

³colour² ?

that's the first you've noticed that?

I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
it many times...

And this is the least bit important... ...how?

He was running out of tangents ...

[nospam]

Post by badgolferman

Post by nospam

³colour² ?

that's the first you've noticed that?

I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
it many times...

because that's how i spell it.

what's odd is you only noticed it now.

[Alan]

Post by nospam

³colour² ?

that's the first you've noticed that?

It seems to me that you spell it correctly.

:-)

[Wilf]

Post by badgolferman

Post by nospam

Post by badgolferman
Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

neither.
they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of factors.
some colours end up being more popular than others, which feeds back
into what colours they might introduce in the future.
the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
iphone in yellow.
those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.
if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it will
be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.
on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows the
exact breakdown of each colour.
<https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/38016-xlarge/HTC-8X-2ad.jpg>

“colour” ?
I thought you were in America. We don’t spell it that way. Where are you
anyway?

Other countries exist and they sell iPhones there :)

[Andy Burnelli]

JR nailed it with the "sealioning" charge and you're proof of that (as
am I and others). You spent some 3 minutes or so composing the above -
in essence a chunk of your life stolen via their denial of life attack.
So best we all ignore them and allow them to steal their own lives while
we get on with our own.

Notice *iKooks are _desperate_ to make what Apple did, just go away*

The few _adults_ on this newsgroup will notice very obviously how much the
iKooks like Alan Browne & Jolly Roger _hate_ everything Apple does.

The iKooks _hate_ that Apple spends millions advertising what amounts to
extremely silly marketing gimmicks - which - iKooks hate - are what the
Apple customers desire (rest assured that Apple marketing is NOT stupid!).

*Notice the iKooks can't change the fact of what Apple actually did.*

In the iKooks' desperation to make what Apple did "go away", the iKooks
blame everyone who is NOT an iKook for talking about what Apple did.

Adult: Did you notice what Apple did?
iKook: Go away. I hate you. And I hate what Apple did. Go away I say!

Since I study the iKooks' behavior, my assessment of the fact the iKooks
_hate_ what Apple did is that the iKooks' belief system is imaginary.

What Apple did shows what idiotic stuff iPhone owners really care about.
What iKooks _hate_ is that Apple embarrassed them by making that obvious.

Always remember, this is what an iKooks is:
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That kind of person uses the iPhone to pretend to be what they're not.
The iKook uses the iPhone to raise their distorted sense of self esteem.

A normal person does not need to do that.
Only these strange iKooks do.

*iKooks _hate_ what Apple did - so they just want it to go away!*

What Apple did, adults will notice, is tell us EXACTLY what Apple
Marketing thinks makes the Apple consumer spend money on iPhones.

a. Yellow iPhones
b. Emoji

Note the lack of functional components in an iPhone, such as sd slots,
aux jacks, removable batteries, working FM radios, integrated modems, etc.
and certainly note the lack of functional software such as wi-fi &
cellular data firewalls, gps spoofers, automatic call recording,
graphical signal strength debuggers, TOR browser anonymity, etc.

[Alan]

Post by badgolferman

Post by nospam

Post by RJH
Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple

alone > decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not
the > customer.
You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has actually been
said is that Apple knows better than you what their customers
want. And that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and
doesn't sell well with their own customers than any troll on
Usenet.

it's not just apple either. every company does that, to varying
degrees of success. to not focus on what potential customers want so
is foolish.

Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

You seemed to be confused by whole concepts in the area of consumer
preferences and market research and functional versus asthetic preferences.

[mike]

Post by Jolly Roger
You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said
is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And
that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well
with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.

You are completely right that nobody needs USB-C nor does anyone want USB-C
because what they really need is lightning & that's what they really want.

Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.
Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.
The list goes on, as with those 3.5mm connections nobody needs nor wants.

What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by mike

Post by Jolly Roger
You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been
said is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want.
And that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't
sell well with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.

nobody needs USB-C

This has nothing to do with USB-C. God you are desperate. LOL... : D

[Alan Browne]

Post by mike

Post by Jolly Roger
You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said
is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And
that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well
with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.

You are completely right that nobody needs USB-C nor does anyone want USB-C
because what they really need is lightning & that's what they really want.
Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.

What percentage of people with Android phones that have SD cards
actually use that feature?

Post by mike
Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.

Is this even an issue? I hate FM - sound quality may be way above AM,
but it's still audio constrained.

Post by mike
The list goes on, as with those 3.5mm connections nobody needs nor wants.

Yeah, technology from the 19th century is really needed these days.

Post by mike
What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.

This attention to the yellow iPhone has certainly triggered a lot of
people who I suspect have deeper issues that need attention...

[nospam]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.

What percentage of people with Android phones that have SD cards
actually use that feature?

it's actually very low.

adding a feature that few people use only to add to a checklist is
stupid.

plus of those who do use cards, they almost always use only one card
that they never remove (and can't because it's adopted). worse, since
sd cards are slower than main memory, they are *reducing* the overall
performance of their phone. some might call it 'throttling'.

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.

Is this even an issue?

no.

again, adding a feature that few people use only to add to a checklist
is stupid.

it also requires wired headphones, making it impractical in most
situations.

those who do want to listen to radio stations can use an app to stream
nearly any radio station anywhere on the planet, and not just nearby fm
stations, but also am radio, police, etc., and without needing wired
headphones.

Post by Alan Browne
I hate FM - sound quality may be way above AM,
but it's still audio constrained.

*way* too many ads and mindless chatter from djs. it's noise.

these days, people stream content (e.g., spotify, apple music) and/or
listen to whatever is stored on their device, where they can choose
exactly what *they* want to listen to and without being bombarded by
unwanted noise every few minutes.

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.

This attention to the yellow iPhone has certainly triggered a lot of
people who I suspect have deeper issues that need attention...

it sure has.

[mike]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
You are completely right that nobody needs USB-C nor does anyone want USB-C
because what they really need is lightning & that's what they really want.
Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.

What percentage of people with Android phones that have SD cards
actually use that feature?

I don't know the answer but I have two answers which seem reasonable.

The first is that it's better not to have to use the inexpensive $20
flashlight than it is to not ever have the flashlight when you need it.

The second is that for $20 you can store more images & video on that card
than twice the storage of the phone AND you can easily move it to another
phone without needing to do anything other than to push a button to do it.

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.

Is this even an issue? I hate FM - sound quality may be way above AM,
but it's still audio constrained.

Same issue. When you really need it, it's better if it's there than not.

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
The list goes on, as with those 3.5mm connections nobody needs nor wants.

Yeah, technology from the 19th century is really needed these days.

People have been carrying water canteens since the 19th century too.
Leaving the water at home doesn't make the hike better in and of itself.

When you need water on a hike, it's better to have the option than not.

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.

This attention to the yellow iPhone has certainly triggered a lot of
people who I suspect have deeper issues that need attention...

It shows iPhone consumers care more for looks sometimes than for function.

[Alan]

Post by mike

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
You are completely right that nobody needs USB-C nor does anyone want USB-C
because what they really need is lightning & that's what they really want.
Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.

What percentage of people with Android phones that have SD cards
actually use that feature?

I don't know the answer but I have two answers which seem reasonable.
The first is that it's better not to have to use the inexpensive $20
flashlight than it is to not ever have the flashlight when you need it.

Do you carry matches?

Tinder and flint?

You never know: you MIGHT need one if your flashlight failes.

(BTW, did you notice that being able to use your iPhone as a flashlight
is something Apple does include?)

Post by mike
The second is that for $20 you can store more images & video on that card
than twice the storage of the phone AND you can easily move it to another
phone without needing to do anything other than to push a button to do it.

But if few people are actually DOING it...

Post by mike

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.

Is this even an issue?  I hate FM - sound quality may be way above AM,
but it's still audio constrained.

Same issue. When you really need it, it's better if it's there than not.

So you should have AM as well, right?

Post by mike

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
The list goes on, as with those 3.5mm connections nobody needs nor wants.

Yeah, technology from the 19th century is really needed these days.

People have been carrying water canteens since the 19th century too.
Leaving the water at home doesn't make the hike better in and of itself.
When you need water on a hike, it's better to have the option than not.

Seriously? Really?

"In certain circumstances, you might need X, so everyone should always
include X in every phone".

Post by mike

Post by Alan Browne

Post by mike
What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.

This attention to the yellow iPhone has certainly triggered a lot of
people who I suspect have deeper issues that need attention...

It shows iPhone consumers care more for looks sometimes than for function.

Nope.

It shows that consumers care about aesthetics.

This is not actually news to anyone but you.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Nic

Post by f***@sdf.org

Post by Andy Burnelli
Why is it that the color yellow is desperately needed & everyone wants it?

the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

Post by f***@sdf.org
i'd prefer a bare metal iPhone made from copper instead of powder
coated aluminum. it would tarnish on some areas, have a green patina
from corrosion on others, and be bare copper metal on wear areas.
like sort of a steampunk look. :)

It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they do.

"OnLy ReLiGiOuS fAnAtIcS hAvE cOlOr PrEfErEnCeS, gUyS! #IAmVerySmart"

[Nic]

Post by Jolly Roger
"OnLy ReLiGiOuS fAnAtIcS hAvE cOlOr PrEfErEnCeS, gUyS!
#IAmVerySmart"

You whooshed completely that the excuse nospam uses has nothing to do with
the color on the phone but what's *inside* the phone that really matters.

You and nospam can't see what's *inside* the iPhone.
All either one of you can see is only the meaningless color on the outside.

Apple knows it's the only thing that matters to people like you & nospam.

If you notice what nospam says, you'd realize nospam always uses the tired
excuse that any given feature inside the phone that Apple can't figure out
how to implement is by nospam's excuses "not needed" & "nobody wants it."

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Nic

Post by Jolly Roger
"OnLy ReLiGiOuS fAnAtIcS hAvE cOlOr PrEfErEnCeS, gUyS!
#IAmVerySmart"

You whooshed completely that the excuse nospam uses

You're the one who whooshed, trollboi. There is *no* mention of nospam
in the post of yours to which I replied - and that's why you have
deleted quoted material from your latest post, as if you think that
doing so will hide this fact. It won't. Here's what you actually said,

Post by Nic

Post by Jolly Roger

Post by Andy Burnelli
Why is it that the color yellow is desperately needed & everyone wants it?

the same questions can be asked for any color. mine is black because
that's what i wanted. there doesn't need to be a reason.

I don't think it's about the color since any given color is not needed.

Post by Jolly Roger
i'd prefer a bare metal iPhone made from copper instead of powder
coated aluminum. it would tarnish on some areas, have a green patina
from corrosion on others, and be bare copper metal on wear areas.
like sort of a steampunk look. :)

It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they do.

Lies and weak trolls are all you have, shithead. It's sad.

[Nil]

Post by Jolly Roger

Post by Nic
It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they do.

Lies and weak trolls are all you have, shithead. It's sad.

The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who says
what you need and what you want is bright colors but not anything useful.

[nospam]

Post by Nil
The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who says
what you need and what you want is bright colors but not anything useful.

nobody said that, liar.

[Alan Browne]

Post by Nil

Post by Jolly Roger

Post by Nic
It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they do.

Lies and weak trolls are all you have, shithead. It's sad.

The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who says
what you need and what you want is bright colors but not anything useful.

Distortion of what he said, which was (essentially): Apple decide what
they believe there is a market for (or that they can create) and go for
it. Further, of course, they advertise that. As they should.

It's called "running a business".

"Apple is ungodly well managed."
-Charlie Munger.

That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by Nil

Post by Jolly Roger

Post by Nic
It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they do.

Lies and weak trolls are all you have, shithead. It's sad.

The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who
says what you need and what you want is bright colors but not
anything useful.

Distortion of what he said, which was (essentially): Apple decide what
they believe there is a market for (or that they can create) and go
for it. Further, of course, they advertise that. As they should.
It's called "running a business".
"Apple is ungodly well managed." -Charlie Munger.
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

It truly is. Imagine what a shitty life someone must have to become
upset about a company releasing a trivial update to a product line that
you are compelled to spend literal days trolling the company's forums
making juvenile jokes about it and insulting anyone who dares to buy
their products. It's frankly pathetic.

[David E. Ross]

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.

It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

[Alan Browne]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

ROFL - all we're doing is rebutting the silliness of this obsession over
the yellow iPhone. It's the Apple haters who brought it up.

[David E. Ross]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

ROFL - all we're doing is rebutting the silliness of this obsession over
the yellow iPhone. It's the Apple haters who brought it up.

You have it backward because they're having fun with Apple investing
probably hundreds of millions of dollars for no added capabilities.

Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead.

If Apple couldn't think of anything useful for the iPhone other than a new
color, maybe they could have put those many millions to dividends instead.

At least by giving hundreds of millions to stockholders, something good
would have come out of the years of research Apple expends on new colors.

[nospam]

Post by David E. Ross
If Apple couldn't think of anything useful for the iPhone other than a new
color, maybe they could have put those many millions to dividends instead.

it's mid-cycle.

go learn what that means.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by nospam

Post by David E. Ross
If Apple couldn't think of anything useful for the iPhone other than a new
color, maybe they could have put those many millions to dividends instead.

it's mid-cycle.
go learn what that means.

That's when hew stuff is introduced. Mostly stuff that's not needed
and nobody wants.

[Alan]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

ROFL - all we're doing is rebutting the silliness of this obsession over
the yellow iPhone. It's the Apple haters who brought it up.

You have it backward because they're having fun with Apple investing
probably hundreds of millions of dollars for no added capabilities.
Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead.
If Apple couldn't think of anything useful for the iPhone other than a new
color, maybe they could have put those many millions to dividends instead.
At least by giving hundreds of millions to stockholders, something good
would have come out of the years of research Apple expends on new colors.

Are you really as stupid as you write?

You think Apple spent "probably hundreds of millions"...

...to add a colour?

[Jolly Roger]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with
yellow. It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed
them to ridicule.

ROFL - all we're doing is rebutting the silliness of this obsession
over the yellow iPhone. It's the Apple haters who brought it up.

You have it backward because they're having fun

"Trolls just wanna have fun, y'all! Anyone who doesn't like it is
'backwards'! #IAmVerySmart!"

[Alan Browne]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

ROFL - all we're doing is rebutting the silliness of this obsession over
the yellow iPhone. It's the Apple haters who brought it up.

You have it backward because they're having fun with Apple investing
probably hundreds of millions of dollars for no added capabilities.

Not that much. But given that Apple is a business[1] they do have a
duty to the company and even shareholders to get more out of the
product. They came up with this (I would have thought a few more
colours ... but...).

Post by David E. Ross
Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead.

If it increases sales to the point that effort generates revenues and
profits (above), then it's useful to the company (and shareholders).

Post by David E. Ross
If Apple couldn't think of anything useful for the iPhone other than a new
color, maybe they could have put those many millions to dividends instead.

If this increases sales, the dividends may well come from that.

Post by David E. Ross
At least by giving hundreds of millions to stockholders, something good
would have come out of the years of research Apple expends on new colors.

Or both. A successful sale of these models means a higher value for the
shareholders. Not that that is the primary objective of a well run company.

[1]
"Apple is an ungodly well managed company."
-Charlie Munger

[David E. Ross]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead.

If it increases sales to the point that effort generates revenues and
profits (above), then it's useful to the company (and shareholders).

Nobody is saying that the color won't work to increase iPhone 14 sales.

What they're saying is buying a smart phone based only on the color is a
clear indication of the type of consumer that the iPhone most appeals to.

I'm not sure why you'd argue that concept as it's obvious from the videos.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead.

If it increases sales to the point that effort generates revenues and
profits (above), then it's useful to the company (and shareholders).

Nobody is saying that the color won't work to increase iPhone 14 sales.
What they're saying is buying a smart phone based only on the color

That's an unfounded claim, and you know it. Color is just one of many
factors people consider when choosing a smartphone. You guys are the
laziest trolls on the planet. Either that, or you really are *this*
stupid.

Post by David E. Ross
clear indication of the type of consumer that the iPhone most appeals to.

Your entire troll is "iPhone users DUMB, BWAHAHAHA!", and it's every bit
of childish and stupid as it looks.

[Alan]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead.

If it increases sales to the point that effort generates revenues and
profits (above), then it's useful to the company (and shareholders).

Nobody is saying that the color won't work to increase iPhone 14 sales.
What they're saying is buying a smart phone based only on the color is a
clear indication of the type of consumer that the iPhone most appeals to.

No it's not! It's a clear indication that consumers like to make
stylistic choices AS WELL as functional ones.

Post by David E. Ross
I'm not sure why you'd argue that concept as it's obvious from the videos.

[Alan Browne]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne

Post by David E. Ross
Apple should have spent those millions giving you something useful instead.

If it increases sales to the point that effort generates revenues and
profits (above), then it's useful to the company (and shareholders).

Nobody is saying that the color won't work to increase iPhone 14 sales.
What they're saying is buying a smart phone based only on the color is a
clear indication of the type of consumer that the iPhone most appeals to.

You're converting this one marketing effort as applying to "all" iPhone
buyers. The iPhone owners I know are mainly engineers, sales/marketing,
a couple doctors, my business lawyer, many of my clients, etc. and so
on. A friend who installs office furniture. A whole spectrum of
needs/wants/desires.

Some of them are even into 'style' in some sense.

Your position is just as silly as the argument that "all" Android owners
with an SD card slot even use the slot. (Pro tip: they don't).

Post by David E. Ross
I'm not sure why you'd argue that concept as it's obvious from the videos.

Apple videos are tightly designed for a purpose. Certainly not to get
"me" to buy a yellow iPhone. But there are people out there for whom
such things are important, or at least will get them to consider buying
it. (And they might choose the blue one instead).

(I drive up a residential street on my way to work. The house trim is
all yellow, the cars are yellow, the motorcycle is yellow ... I have
little doubt that the interior decoration leans that way ...)

[nospam]

Post by Alan Browne
(I drive up a residential street on my way to work. The house trim is
all yellow, the cars are yellow, the motorcycle is yellow ... I have
little doubt that the interior decoration leans that way ...)

a friend of mine buys older houses, knocks them down and builds a giant
monstrosity in its place. he said yellow houses sell the fastest.

[Alan Browne]

Post by nospam

Post by Alan Browne
(I drive up a residential street on my way to work. The house trim is
all yellow, the cars are yellow, the motorcycle is yellow ... I have
little doubt that the interior decoration leans that way ...)

a friend of mine buys older houses, knocks them down and builds a giant
monstrosity in its place. he said yellow houses sell the fastest.

I don't know about "there" but "here" most house sales occur in the
early to mid spring. So yellow might be a happy trigger spring colour
that helps move the obscene McMansion.

[nospam]

Post by Alan Browne

Post by nospam

Post by Alan Browne
(I drive up a residential street on my way to work. The house trim is
all yellow, the cars are yellow, the motorcycle is yellow ... I have
little doubt that the interior decoration leans that way ...)

a friend of mine buys older houses, knocks them down and builds a giant
monstrosity in its place. he said yellow houses sell the fastest.

I don't know about "there" but "here" most house sales occur in the
early to mid spring. So yellow might be a happy trigger spring colour
that helps move the obscene McMansion.

i was surprised when he told me that. we were standing in front of a
newly built yellow house, which to me is ugly as fuck and you couldn't
pay me to live in it, but indeed, it did sell in a few days after going
on the market.

[Alan Browne]

Post by nospam

Post by Alan Browne

Post by nospam

Post by Alan Browne
(I drive up a residential street on my way to work. The house trim is
all yellow, the cars are yellow, the motorcycle is yellow ... I have
little doubt that the interior decoration leans that way ...)

a friend of mine buys older houses, knocks them down and builds a giant
monstrosity in its place. he said yellow houses sell the fastest.

I don't know about "there" but "here" most house sales occur in the
early to mid spring. So yellow might be a happy trigger spring colour
that helps move the obscene McMansion.

i was surprised when he told me that. we were standing in front of a
newly built yellow house, which to me is ugly as fuck and you couldn't
pay me to live in it, but indeed, it did sell in a few days after going
on the market.

There's an ugly house around the corner from here about 45 years old.
Recent renovations. Sign went up in mid Feb and it sold in 2 weeks.
(No yellow there, however).

Saw a surveyor there yesterday. Normally you update the "Localization
Certificate" _before_ you sell it (if the cert. is old). But it sold
before the surveyor could get to it. (Plenty of snow on the ground too
- but there should be enough other "landmarks" for him to do his job).

OTOH, most spring's around here you'll see a lot of houses for sale -
maybe 1 in 20 or so.

Over the past couple years: scarce as unicorns. So prices are insane
high - but if you sell - where do you go?

[Chris Schram]

Post by Alan Browne
Over the past couple years: scarce as unicorns. So prices are insane
high - but if you sell - where do you go?

You must agree with nospam that yellow is most definitely needed & wanted.

[Alan]

Post by Chris Schram

Post by Alan Browne
Over the past couple years: scarce as unicorns. So prices are insane
high - but if you sell - where do you go?

You must agree with nospam that yellow is most definitely needed & wanted.

I agree that consumer products have functional and aesthetic
requirements and that they are on completely different scales of
expenditure to deliver.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Chris Schram

Post by Alan Browne
Over the past couple years: scarce as unicorns. So prices are insane
high - but if you sell - where do you go?

You must agree with nospam that yellow is most definitely needed & wanted.

It's hilarious how butthurt you trolls are about the most trivial
things... : D

[Alan]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

No "Apple lover" here started a single thread about the colour of
Apple's products.

I doubt you can find a single one if you look back over an entire decade.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Alan

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with
yellow. It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them
to ridicule.

No "Apple lover" here started a single thread about the colour of
Apple's products.
I doubt you can find a single one if you look back over an entire decade.

...meanwhile these same trolls just love to loudly proclaim _they_ are
the adults... ; )

[Michael]

Post by Jolly Roger
...meanwhile these same trolls just love to loudly proclaim _they_ are
the adults... ; )

I think they're just unhappy they can't get their pixel in a good color.

[Alan]

Post by Michael

Post by Jolly Roger
...meanwhile these same trolls just love to loudly proclaim _they_ are
the adults... ; )

I think they're just unhappy they can't get their pixel in a good color.

Everyone knows that real "1337" users only buy phones made from
unfinished aluminum.

;-)

[badgolferman]

Post by Alan

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

No "Apple lover" here started a single thread about the colour of
Apple's products.
I doubt you can find a single one if you look back over an entire decade.

I am an iPhone user, in fact I carry two, my wife and child each have one,
and we have a set of AirPod Pros and an iPad. We had an iPod at one time. I
started the comment about yellow iPhones.

The difference between myself and the “Apple lovers” is that I have a sense
of reason and can tell when things Apple does are not for the benefit of
consumers.

[Alan Browne]

Post by badgolferman

Post by Alan

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed them to ridicule.

No "Apple lover" here started a single thread about the colour of
Apple's products.
I doubt you can find a single one if you look back over an entire decade.

I am an iPhone user, in fact I carry two, my wife and child each have one,
and we have a set of AirPod Pros and an iPad. We had an iPod at one time. I
started the comment about yellow iPhones.
The difference between myself and the “Apple lovers” is that I have a sense
of reason and can tell when things Apple does are not for the benefit of
consumers.

Apple's first responsibility: the company.
Second: the shareholders.

Apple's approach to these responsibilities has been to know their
customers very well. Out of this base of marketing prowess came this
decision as it will delight some customers, it will sell other colour
phones in the current product cycle.

And these things satisfy customers (3rd), shareholders (2nd) and the
company (1st).

"Apple is an ungodly well managed company."
-Charlie Munger.

Find something else to troll about.

[Jolly Roger]

Post by badgolferman

Post by Alan

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with
yellow. It's the Apple lovers who are triggered that it exposed
them to ridicule.

No "Apple lover" here started a single thread about the colour of
Apple's products.
I doubt you can find a single one if you look back over an entire decade.

I am an iPhone user, in fact I carry two, my wife and child each have
one, and we have a set of AirPod Pros and an iPad. We had an iPod at
one time. I started the comment about yellow iPhones.

Yes, in order to childishly troll (as you often do here). Owning Apple
products and trolling aren't necessarily mutually exclusive - though
that's clearly the false implication you're trying to make. ; )

Post by badgolferman
The difference between myself and the “Apple lovers”

You trolls call anyone who dares to call your weak trolls "Apple
lovers".

Post by badgolferman
I have a sense of reason

Trolling Apple newsgroups for literal *days* over the release of a new
colored iPhone is *anything* but reasonable. It's childish and sad.

Post by badgolferman
things Apple does are not for the benefit of consumers.

"ReLeAsiNg iPhOnEs In MuLtIpLe CoLoRs Is AnTi-CoNsUmEr, Y'aLl!!
#IAmVerySmart!"

You people seriously CANNOT avoid self-owning.

[Joerg Lorenz]

Post by badgolferman

Post by Alan
No "Apple lover" here started a single thread about the colour of
Apple's products.
I doubt you can find a single one if you look back over an entire decade.

I am an iPhone user, in fact I carry two, my wife and child each have one,
and we have a set of AirPod Pros and an iPad. We had an iPod at one time. I
started the comment about yellow iPhones.

What are you trying to implicate? That you know better than anybody
else? You are extremely childish and trollish.

Post by badgolferman
The difference between myself and the “Apple lovers” is that I have a sense
of reason and can tell when things Apple does are not for the benefit of
consumers.

Apple is not the Red Cross but only the manufacturer of the best hard-
and software in the smartphone-domain. Everything performant and well
integrated in the whole ecosystem like no other manufacturer. Good
things come at a cost.

Nobody is forced to buy anything from Apple. If you do and you complain
you are an idiot by pure logic.

[Andy Burnelli]

via ftp and smb, with a server component *added* to the android device.
except that smb uses a protected port that is not available on android
but *is* available on ios.
seamless!

lulz...

The _adults_ on this newsgroup will note that while I've tested every free
method ever suggested for copying files between iOS/Android & Windows, I
have _never_ suggested people use either SMB or FTP for something as
trivially easy on Android as copying files both ways to & from devices.

The fact you iKooks have to _fabricate_ that imaginary strawman is proof
that you _hate_ how crippled Apple products are outside the walled garden.

Q: What does it prove that the iKooks fabricated that imaginary strawman?
a. That the iKooks are fantastically ignorant, or,
b. That iKooks don't own adult cognitive skills, or,
c. That iKooks hate that on Android, copying files just works, or,
d. All of the above.

[Andy Burnelli]

Note how triggered Arlen is: he *has* to deflect and try to change the
subject because he *knows* how ridiculous sms's idiotic claim that Face
ID supposedly doesn't work well in the dark is. He has also been so
triggered by Apple's success that he has spent *literal* *days* trolling
about the color yellow. He and his little troll gang are fucking
*pathetic*. ; )

The subject is why is something completely meaningless such as the color of
an iPhone suddenly wanted and needed, when you iKooks constantly claim that
meaningful items (e.g., sd card portability) is not wanted nor needed.

With respect to FaceID gimmickry, why is it that only iPhone owners fall
for every marketing gimmick in the book?

Don't you realize Apple is calling you stupid by these advertisements?

[Jolly Roger]

Post by Andy Burnelli

Note how triggered Arlen is: he *has* to deflect and try to change
the subject because he *knows* how ridiculous sms's idiotic claim
that Face ID supposedly doesn't work well in the dark is. He has also
been so triggered by Apple's success that he has spent *literal*
*days* trolling about the color yellow. He and his little troll gang
are fucking *pathetic*. ; )

The subject is why is something completely meaningless such as the
color of an iPhone suddenly wanted and needed

That's just a bullshit and childish claim *you* are making in your
ongoing *days-long* reactionary (triggered) troll after Apple simply
released a new color of an existing product. And since it's bullshit and
childish, it deserves no serious consideration from adults.

Note how Arlen is *compelled* to deflect from the topic of sms's
bullshit claim that Face ID supposedly doesn't work well in the dark,
because he knows full well the claim is laughably wrong and cannot be
defended. Weak sauce! : )

[Jolly Roger]

Post by David E. Ross

Post by Alan Browne
That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

That's backwards.

Only in your bizarro Troll World.

Post by David E. Ross
It's not triggered Apple haters as those haters are having fun with yellow.

It absolutely is. And they are *so* triggered that they go out of their
way to come to Apple newsgroups and troll about it *for literal days*.

Post by David E. Ross
It's the Apple lovers who are triggered

"I know you are, but what am I?" is about as childish an argument as it
gets, but is naturally fitting behavior for juvenile trolls who get
upset by mere colors.