Discussion:
Mac Pro beats Dell on price.
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Jim Polaski
2006-08-23 21:45:20 UTC
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From Forbes.com

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html

"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."


And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last paragraph from
Dell.
--
Regards,
JimP
"The measure of a man is what he will do while
expecting that he will get nothing in return!"
t***@earthlink.net
2006-08-23 22:36:09 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last paragraph from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy - in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Snit
2006-08-23 22:59:02 UTC
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Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last paragraph from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy - in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Check out the comparisons that people have found:

<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>

Apple does very well... oh, and if you have any comparisons to add just let
me know... I would love to add them. Instead, of course, you will whine
about how they are hand picked, even though I include every single relevant
comparison people have suggested I add.
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Jim Lee Jr.
2006-08-23 23:23:19 UTC
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Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last paragraph from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
zara
2006-08-24 00:45:57 UTC
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Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
Grab those ankles, Jimmy.
Edwin
2006-08-24 01:51:31 UTC
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Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last paragraph from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Jim Lee Jr.
2006-08-24 03:01:58 UTC
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Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,

I paid:
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer

Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.

Think before you run off your mouth, your foot may go clear through your
GI tract and out your anus.
zara
2006-08-24 11:48:27 UTC
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Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
You stupid shit. You could have gotten a BRAND NEW 3.7 GHz 1000 FSB, with
CD-ROM R&W with 1000MB Ram, with 256 Video, with Gig HD with WINXP for
$499.00 from DELL. A machine like that, blows your OLD DOG, USED piece of
shit 450 MHz mac, out of the water. You should stop playing with yourself so
much - it's turning your little pea brain into mush.
Tom Bates
2006-08-24 13:51:08 UTC
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Post by zara
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
You stupid shit. You could have gotten a BRAND NEW 3.7 GHz 1000 FSB, with
CD-ROM R&W with 1000MB Ram, with 256 Video, with Gig HD with WINXP for
$499.00 from DELL. A machine like that, blows your OLD DOG, USED piece of
shit 450 MHz mac, out of the water. You should stop playing with yourself so
much - it's turning your little pea brain into mush.
You're the stupid shit since you haven't the brains to notice that JL isn't
going to buy a Win box running Windows. No matter the age of his older Mac, it
fits his needs and works all the time. That's all that really matters.
But then again you're not so bright being a Windows user.
--
Best,
Tom (the real one)
zara
2006-08-24 15:29:14 UTC
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Post by Tom Bates
Post by zara
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for
a
nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
You stupid shit. You could have gotten a BRAND NEW 3.7 GHz 1000 FSB, with
CD-ROM R&W with 1000MB Ram, with 256 Video, with Gig HD with WINXP for
$499.00 from DELL. A machine like that, blows your OLD DOG, USED piece of
shit 450 MHz mac, out of the water. You should stop playing with yourself so
much - it's turning your little pea brain into mush.
You're the stupid shit since you haven't the brains to notice that JL isn't
going to buy a Win box running Windows. No matter the age of his older Mac, it
fits his needs and works all the time. That's all that really matters.
But then again you're not so bright being a Windows user.
How's the kiddie pix stuff going, Jim?
Jim Lee Jr.
2006-08-24 16:49:15 UTC
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Post by zara
How's the kiddie pix stuff going, Jim?
Sorry, I'm not into kink. I think you're high on LSD again.
zara
2006-08-24 17:53:45 UTC
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Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by zara
How's the kiddie pix stuff going, Jim?
Sorry, I'm not into kink. I think you're high on LSD again.
I was talking to Jim Polaski - AKA Tom Bates. - Not you.
Edwin
2006-08-24 16:57:16 UTC
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Post by Tom Bates
Post by zara
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a
nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
You stupid shit. You could have gotten a BRAND NEW 3.7 GHz 1000 FSB, with
CD-ROM R&W with 1000MB Ram, with 256 Video, with Gig HD with WINXP for
$499.00 from DELL. A machine like that, blows your OLD DOG, USED piece of
shit 450 MHz mac, out of the water. You should stop playing with yourself so
much - it's turning your little pea brain into mush.
You're the stupid shit since you haven't the brains to notice that JL isn't
going to buy a Win box running Windows. No matter the age of his older Mac, it
fits his needs and works all the time. That's all that really matters.
But then again you're not so bright being a Windows user.
Jim Lee Jr. out to go out on the road and do shootouts between his Mac
and the Dell Zara described. Let people see what it really means to
be a Mac Advocate...
Edwin
2006-08-24 16:18:59 UTC
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Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
THAN $50 for a G4 tower:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ280019675336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

$593.44 is a lot less than the $700 - $1200 PC you called Tom a "cheap
mamzer" for giving as the right price range.
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Think before you run off your mouth, your foot may go clear through your
GI tract and out your anus.
IOW, you're warning me not to duplicate what you just did to yourself.
Don't worry, I'm not about to emulate you.
Mike
2006-08-24 16:26:14 UTC
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Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ2800196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that, plus $50 shipping.

If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!

Mike
Alan Baker
2006-08-24 16:42:20 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ28001
96
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that, plus $50 shipping.
If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!
Mike
I don't think that Edwin will ever learn that...
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Edwin
2006-08-24 16:54:26 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ28001
96
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that, plus $50 shipping.
If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!
Mike
I don't think that Edwin will ever learn that...
You mistakeningly believe I've failed to learn the same things you have
failed to. See my reply to Mike.

The bottom line is...

... you are wrong...

... AGAIN! <G>
Edwin
2006-08-24 16:52:38 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ2800196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that,
I pasted in the wrong link. You can find the price I mentioned on
eBay.
Post by Mike
plus $50 shipping.
I was only referring to the price of the computer.
Post by Mike
If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-G4-400MHz-128MB-6GB-CD-Zip-Great-Value_W0QQitemZ220018218650QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Alan Baker
2006-08-24 17:01:45 UTC
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Post by Edwin
Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ280
0196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that,
I pasted in the wrong link. You can find the price I mentioned on
eBay.
Post by Mike
plus $50 shipping.
I was only referring to the price of the computer.
Post by Mike
If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-G4-400MHz-128MB-6GB-CD-Zip-Great-Value_W0QQ
itemZ220018218650QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Please.


You did what you always do: you shot from the hip without checking your
facts. And now you're covering your tracks by finding a different eBay
item. Your second item has a smaller hard drive (6GB vs 20GB), half the
RAM and no operating system, no wonder it's cheaper.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Edwin
2006-08-24 18:37:20 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Post by Edwin
Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ280
0196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that,
I pasted in the wrong link. You can find the price I mentioned on
eBay.
Post by Mike
plus $50 shipping.
I was only referring to the price of the computer.
Post by Mike
If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-G4-400MHz-128MB-6GB-CD-Zip-Great-Value_W0QQ
itemZ220018218650QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Please.
WTF?
Post by Alan Baker
You did what you always do: you shot from the hip without checking your
facts.
That lie won't become true no matter how many times you tell it about me.
Post by Alan Baker
And now you're covering your tracks by finding a different eBay
item. Your second item has a smaller hard drive (6GB vs 20GB), half the
RAM and no operating system, no wonder it's cheaper.
Hey arsehole, I just posted the wrong link. Go take a flying leap.
--
"But SunOS was just a purchased OS. Like Apple,
Sun purchased and [sic] OS and then developed it. No more."
-- Alan "Wrong Again" Baker
Lars Träger
2006-08-24 23:54:57 UTC
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Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Edwin
Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQite
mZ280 0196 75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that,
I pasted in the wrong link. You can find the price I mentioned on
eBay.
Post by Mike
plus $50 shipping.
I was only referring to the price of the computer.
Post by Mike
If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-G4-400MHz-128MB-6GB-CD-Zip-Great-Val
ue_W0QQ itemZ220018218650QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Please.
WTF?
Post by Alan Baker
You did what you always do: you shot from the hip without checking your
facts.
That lie won't become true no matter how many times you tell it about me.
Suuuuure thing, your first URL actually showed what you wanted to show,
and you just gave the second to further prove your point.
Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
And now you're covering your tracks by finding a different eBay
item. Your second item has a smaller hard drive (6GB vs 20GB), half the
RAM and no operating system, no wonder it's cheaper.
Hey arsehole, I just posted the wrong link. Go take a flying leap.
You have been mislead by Ebay, right?
--
Lars T.
Edwin
2006-08-25 00:15:14 UTC
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Post by Lars Träger
Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Edwin
Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQite
mZ280 0196 75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Um, the BIN is $80 on that,
I pasted in the wrong link. You can find the price I mentioned on
eBay.
Post by Mike
plus $50 shipping.
I was only referring to the price of the computer.
Post by Mike
If you're going to provide a link to support a claim, use a link that
actually supports your claim!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-G4-400MHz-128MB-6GB-CD-Zip-Great-Val
ue_W0QQ itemZ220018218650QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Please.
WTF?
Post by Alan Baker
You did what you always do: you shot from the hip without checking your
facts.
That lie won't become true no matter how many times you tell it about me.
Suuuuure thing, your first URL actually showed what you wanted to show,
and you just gave the second to further prove your point.
Son-of-a-gun, you finally got something right!
Post by Lars Träger
Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
And now you're covering your tracks by finding a different eBay
item. Your second item has a smaller hard drive (6GB vs 20GB), half the
RAM and no operating system, no wonder it's cheaper.
Hey arsehole, I just posted the wrong link. Go take a flying leap.
You have been mislead by Ebay, right?
Oops, you fell down again. You're confused and wrong again. At least
you did get one right further up.
--
"But SunOS was just a purchased OS. Like Apple,
Sun purchased and [sic] OS and then developed it. No more."
-- Alan "Wrong Again" Baker
Alan Baker
2006-08-24 16:41:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ2800196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wow. A G4 *now* has a different price that a G4 some time in the past...

LOL
--
'Your quote of me shows me saying "no new Macs," not "no upgrades."
Your upgrades are too insignificant to qualify those as "new Macs."'

'It's obvious to all that my predictions were wrong.   Shall I also
admit the sky is blue?' -- Edwin: feeling a little conflicted.
Edwin
2006-08-24 17:01:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a
nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ2800196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wow. A G4 *now* has a different price that a G4 some time in the past...
Describe the psychic power you used to determine that Jim bought his
computer "some time in the past."
Alan Baker
2006-08-24 17:09:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for
a
nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options
such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ280
0196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wow. A G4 *now* has a different price that a G4 some time in the past...
Describe the psychic power you used to determine that Jim bought his
computer "some time in the past."
The fact that you agree that he is "posting from" that machine. If he is
posting from it, and you know it, he wrote about it some time in the
past. Ergo, he bought it some time in the past.

Care to show the post where Jim say he bought that system and let us all
see the date?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Edwin
2006-08-24 18:46:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by Edwin
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a
nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is
about
$947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such
as
more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last
paragraph
from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy in the
$700-$1200 price range.
Whatever you say, cheap mamzer.
That's hilarious coming from a guy who's posting from an old $50 Mac he
bought on eBay...
Let's see, Eddie,
$15.00 for a 450MHz G4 CPU, $20.48 after taxes and shipping
$50.00 for a Lite-On CD-ROM burner
$129.00 for Tiger, $137.00 after taxes
$147.90 for two PC100 512MB RAM sticks, $160.96 after taxes and shipping
$225.00 for the computer
You paid $225 for a G4 tower? Somebody sure saw you coming...
Post by Jim Lee Jr.
Total: $593.44, far from the $50.00 imaginary eBay transaction.
Imaginary? Here's just one of the "buy it now" deals on eBay for LESS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MAC-G4-350MHz-256MB-RAM-20GB-CD-ROM_W0QQitemZ280
0196
75336QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14912QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wow. A G4 *now* has a different price that a G4 some time in the past...
Describe the psychic power you used to determine that Jim bought his
computer "some time in the past."
The fact that you agree that he is "posting from" that machine.
What machine is "that machine," and when did I agree with anything about it?
Post by Alan Baker
If he is
posting from it, and you know it, he wrote about it some time in the
past. Ergo, he bought it some time in the past.
What's "sometime in the past" to you? A month or two?
Post by Alan Baker
Care to show the post where Jim say he bought that system and let us all
see the date?
You ought to do that. You're the one who's claiming to be able to know
how old the machine the poster is using, and when he acquired it.
--
"But SunOS was just a purchased OS. Like Apple,
Sun purchased and [sic] OS and then developed it. No more."
-- Alan "Wrong Again" Baker
Mike
2006-08-24 19:09:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
Wow. A G4 *now* has a different price that a G4 some time in the past...
Describe the psychic power you used to determine that Jim bought his
computer "some time in the past."
Well, he could hardly have bought it "some time in the future", now
could he?

Mike
Alan Baker
2006-09-01 20:42:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike
Post by Edwin
Post by Alan Baker
Wow. A G4 *now* has a different price that a G4 some time in the past...
Describe the psychic power you used to determine that Jim bought his
computer "some time in the past."
Well, he could hardly have bought it "some time in the future", now
could he?
Mike
It's really quite amazing what one must spell out for Edwin, isn't it?
--
'Your quote of me shows me saying "no new Macs," not "no upgrades."
Your upgrades are too insignificant to qualify those as "new Macs."'

'It's obvious to all that my predictions were wrong.   Shall I also
admit the sky is blue?' -- Edwin: feeling a little conflicted.
Mitch
2006-08-24 05:35:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by t***@earthlink.net
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy - in the
$700-$1200 price range.
I went to configure an iMac with a comparable Dell.
I didn't spend much time comparing the technical details, but the
general specs compare somewhat:

Dell XPS 410
2.1 GHz Core Duo
20" monitor
ATI x1300 video w/256 RAM
500 GB drives
1 GB RAM
DVD 16x burner
DVD 16x reader
attached speakers
security package
$ 2107

Apple iMac
2 GHz Core Duo
20" monitor
ATI x1600 video w/256 RAM
500 GB drive
1 GB RAM
DVD 8x burner
no speakers
$ 2074

Speakers are a negligible add-on, but the extra drive is significant, a
slight speed difference (and I'm not entirely sure the processor
package is the same between these) offset a lower-end video card.
The internal spaces are probably the most significant -- not a good
case, but internal expandability is good.
Is it more important than the great iMac case, small footprint,
built-in camera, software package, and stability?

I'd say the Dell does slightly better if I had to ignore the OS
difference.

Personally, I can't ignore that at twice the price.
Steve de Mena
2006-08-24 06:06:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mitch
Post by t***@earthlink.net
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy - in the
$700-$1200 price range.
I went to configure an iMac with a comparable Dell.
I didn't spend much time comparing the technical details, but the
Dell XPS 410
2.1 GHz Core Duo
20" monitor
ATI x1300 video w/256 RAM
500 GB drives
1 GB RAM
DVD 16x burner
DVD 16x reader
attached speakers
security package
$ 2107
Apple iMac
2 GHz Core Duo
20" monitor
ATI x1600 video w/256 RAM
500 GB drive
1 GB RAM
DVD 8x burner
no speakers
$ 2074
Speakers are a negligible add-on, but the extra drive is significant, a
slight speed difference (and I'm not entirely sure the processor
package is the same between these) offset a lower-end video card.
The internal spaces are probably the most significant -- not a good
case, but internal expandability is good.
Is it more important than the great iMac case, small footprint,
built-in camera, software package, and stability?
I'd say the Dell does slightly better if I had to ignore the OS
difference.
Personally, I can't ignore that at twice the price.
Dell has frequent sales and coupons that could
knock that price down significantly. Do they
include 3 years of on-site service in the base
price comparable to the add-on cost of AppleCare?

Steve
Mitch
2006-08-24 08:51:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve de Mena
Dell has frequent sales and coupons that could
knock that price down significantly. Do they
include 3 years of on-site service in the base
price comparable to the add-on cost of AppleCare?
The packages I priced were both 1 year service and 30 days (Dell) or 90
days (Apple) telephone support.
I am not sure now, but the link I followed referred to a coupon which I
had intended to be included in the price. Now, I don't recall seeing
the coupon discount on the final page.

It was my impression Dell was going to do away with those coupons and
discounts completely and post only a single price for all models.
Haven't they started that yet, or did they change their minds?
Steve de Mena
2006-08-25 02:44:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
Dell has frequent sales and coupons that could
knock that price down significantly. Do they
include 3 years of on-site service in the base
price comparable to the add-on cost of AppleCare?
The packages I priced were both 1 year service and 30 days (Dell) or 90
days (Apple) telephone support.
I am not sure now, but the link I followed referred to a coupon which I
had intended to be included in the price. Now, I don't recall seeing
the coupon discount on the final page.
It was my impression Dell was going to do away with those coupons and
discounts completely and post only a single price for all models.
Haven't they started that yet, or did they change their minds?
I don't know, but if they abandon coupons they
will likely lower "everyday" prices.

Steve
Chris Clement
2006-08-24 17:12:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by t***@earthlink.net
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0500, Jim Polaski
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last paragraph from
Dell.
OK. Now, go compare computers that most of us will buy - in the
$700-$1200 price range.
That's funny considering you were arguing that Dell beat the Mac Pro
price after the Pro was released. Nice punt.
Mike
2006-08-24 00:16:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
So the Mac becomes one more thing that Mac advocates used to hate: the
cheapest. After saying for years that "You get what you pay for" now
being cheap is suddenly a feature.

Nope, no double standards here folks. Macs are now the cheapest, unix
based, Intel architecture PC clone.

IOW, everything Mac advocates used to hate! Welcome to the Dark Side!

Mike
Steve de Mena
2006-08-24 04:19:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim Polaski
From Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968854.html
"A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a nearly
identically configured Dell Precision Workstation 490. The Mac is about $947
cheaper - and the gap widens when you start piling on options such as more
memory, faster processors and bigger hard drives."
And before you Windiots get your panties dripping, read the last paragraph from
Dell.
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?

Steve
Mitch
2006-08-24 05:44:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.

In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Snit
2006-08-24 05:55:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
--
€ Different viruses are still different even if in the same "family"
€ Dreamweaver and GoLive are professional web development applications
€ Dreamweaver, being the #1 pro web design tool, is used by many pros
Steve de Mena
2006-08-24 06:35:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
Do they factor in Dell discounts/coupons? A
cursory look at that page and I saw $117 less,
numbers like that, which would be wiped away with
a coupon.

Steve
Snit
2006-08-24 06:45:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve de Mena
Post by Snit
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
Do they factor in Dell discounts/coupons? A
cursory look at that page and I saw $117 less,
numbers like that, which would be wiped away with
a coupon.
I do not second guess the comparisons. I do not think most take into
consideration discounts by *either* company or for that companies computers.
--
€ OS X is partially based on BSD (esp. FreeBSD)
€ OS X users are at far less risk of malware then are XP users
€ Photoshop is an image editing application
Steve de Mena
2006-08-24 07:13:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Steve de Mena
Post by Snit
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
Do they factor in Dell discounts/coupons? A
cursory look at that page and I saw $117 less,
numbers like that, which would be wiped away with
a coupon.
I do not second guess the comparisons. I do not think most take into
consideration discounts by *either* company or for that companies computers.
Since when does Apple offer any real discounts or
sales? Besides sales and coupons, Dell often
throws in something like a free all-in-one
printer, an upgraded monitor, "double RAM", etc.

Steve
Mitch
2006-08-24 10:24:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve de Mena
Since when does Apple offer any real discounts or
sales? Besides sales and coupons, Dell often
throws in something like a free all-in-one
printer, an upgraded monitor, "double RAM", etc.
Apple offers all of those, albeit less frequently, excepting the price
discounting.
Added RAM, a major printer deal, a digital camera, iPods, and monitor
packages are pretty frequent.
As far as price, they are trying to get all channels to have consistent
pricing, so the deals come from add-ons and such.
David Fritzinger
2006-08-24 17:33:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
Since when does Apple offer any real discounts or
sales? Besides sales and coupons, Dell often
throws in something like a free all-in-one
printer, an upgraded monitor, "double RAM", etc.
Apple offers all of those, albeit less frequently, excepting the price
discounting.
Added RAM, a major printer deal, a digital camera, iPods, and monitor
packages are pretty frequent.
As far as price, they are trying to get all channels to have consistent
pricing, so the deals come from add-ons and such.
Actually, if you want to see deals like the above, you don't want to
shop at the Apple Store. Shop at some of the mail order shops, like
MacConnection. They usually have deals where they sell a Mac at near
list price (usually only a couple of dollars off list), but they throw
in extra RAM, cheap printers, etc.
--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI
Stuart Krivis
2006-08-31 13:55:29 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:33:14 GMT, David Fritzinger
Post by David Fritzinger
Post by Mitch
Apple offers all of those, albeit less frequently, excepting the price
discounting.
Added RAM, a major printer deal, a digital camera, iPods, and monitor
packages are pretty frequent.
As far as price, they are trying to get all channels to have consistent
pricing, so the deals come from add-ons and such.
Actually, if you want to see deals like the above, you don't want to
shop at the Apple Store. Shop at some of the mail order shops, like
MacConnection. They usually have deals where they sell a Mac at near
list price (usually only a couple of dollars off list), but they throw
in extra RAM, cheap printers, etc.
I haven't looked at any of these places in a while, but don't they
charge an installation fee for putting in the "free" RAM? I also
remember that they kept the stock Apple-branded modules and put in
generic ones. They then sell the original RAM for more than the cost
of the "free" RAM they put in. :-)

I've also found that "free" printers are often not a good thing. They
usually aren't anything I would actually buy if I were in the market
for a printer.
Snit
2006-08-24 14:32:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve de Mena
Post by Snit
Post by Steve de Mena
Post by Snit
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
Do they factor in Dell discounts/coupons? A
cursory look at that page and I saw $117 less,
numbers like that, which would be wiped away with
a coupon.
I do not second guess the comparisons. I do not think most take into
consideration discounts by *either* company or for that companies computers.
Since when does Apple offer any real discounts or
sales? Besides sales and coupons, Dell often
throws in something like a free all-in-one
printer, an upgraded monitor, "double RAM", etc.
You can get discounts on Apple products as well, though it is true Apple is
a *lot* less like the stereotypical cars salesman that Dell is.
--
€ A partial subset is not synonymous with the whole
€ A person's actions speak more about him than what others say
€ Apple doesn't provide as many options as the rest of the PC industry
Jim Polaski
2006-08-24 13:47:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve de Mena
Post by Snit
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
Do they factor in Dell discounts/coupons? A
cursory look at that page and I saw $117 less,
numbers like that, which would be wiped away with
a coupon.
Steve
With Dells current problems, those will not be as big,frequent, etc. Dell has
said. Dell's low price and high volume biz model is spluttering at the moment.
--
Regards,
JimP
"The measure of a man is what he will do while
expecting that he will get nothing in return!"
zara
2006-08-24 15:30:21 UTC
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I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
Do they factor in Dell discounts/coupons? A
cursory look at that page and I saw $117 less,
numbers like that, which would be wiped away with
a coupon.
Steve
With Dells current problems, those will not be as big,frequent, etc. Dell has
said. Dell's low price and high volume biz model is spluttering at the moment.
Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
-hh
2006-08-24 15:57:46 UTC
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Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
Which one do you think will be out of the portable MP3 business first?


-hh
zara
2006-08-24 16:19:17 UTC
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Post by zara
Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
Which one do you think will be out of the portable MP3 business first?
Dell is gone from that. They will both concentrate on the products that
make them the most money. For Dell, that would be computers. For Apple-the
music / entertainment business.
Lars Träger
2006-08-24 17:05:26 UTC
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Post by zara
Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
Which one do you think will be out of the portable MP3 business first?
Dell is gone from that. They will both concentrate on the products that
make them the most money. For Dell, that would be computers. For Apple-the
music / entertainment business.
So Dell will concentrate on printer ink?
--
Lars T.
zara
2006-08-24 17:57:45 UTC
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Post by zara
Post by -hh
Post by zara
Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
Which one do you think will be out of the portable MP3 business first?
Dell is gone from that. They will both concentrate on the products that
make them the most money. For Dell, that would be computers. For Apple-the
music / entertainment business.
So Dell will concentrate on printer ink?
And you should concentrate on toilet paper.
Lars Träger
2006-08-24 23:47:10 UTC
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Post by Lars Träger
Post by zara
Post by -hh
Post by zara
Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
Which one do you think will be out of the portable MP3 business first?
Dell is gone from that. They will both concentrate on the products that
make them the most money. For Dell, that would be computers. For Apple-the
music / entertainment business.
So Dell will concentrate on printer ink?
And you should concentrate on toilet paper.
And you shouldn't recycle it.
--
Lars T.
zara
2006-08-25 13:52:39 UTC
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Post by zara
Post by Lars Träger
Post by zara
Post by -hh
Post by zara
Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
Which one do you think will be out of the portable MP3 business first?
Dell is gone from that. They will both concentrate on the products that
make them the most money. For Dell, that would be computers. For Apple-the
music / entertainment business.
So Dell will concentrate on printer ink?
And you should concentrate on toilet paper.
And you shouldn't recycle it.
the voice of experience.
Jim Lee Jr.
2006-08-24 16:47:37 UTC
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Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
Cn't stay away from the LSD?
Jim Polaski
2006-08-27 15:27:02 UTC
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Post by Jim Polaski
Post by Steve de Mena
Post by Snit
Post by Mitch
Post by Steve de Mena
I keep seeing these price comparisons and they
always seem to be with a Mac Pro. How about doing
one with a Macbook Pro? Or......any other Apple
Mac from the last 10 years...besides the Mac Pro?
Well, it's always the standouts that get the comparisons -- the highest
performer, the smallest model, the cheapest model, the newest laptop.
It happens every time.
In this case, it's the newest model and the highest-performing.
There's no way people aren't going to compare it.
Not to mention that there *have* been lots of other comparisons. The Mac
does quite well - the myth of the overpriced Mac has been repeatedly shot
down: <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices/>.
Do they factor in Dell discounts/coupons? A
cursory look at that page and I saw $117 less,
numbers like that, which would be wiped away with
a coupon.
Steve
With Dells current problems, those will not be as big,frequent, etc. Dell has
said. Dell's low price and high volume biz model is spluttering at the moment.
Apple will be out of the computer business, long before Dell.
That's YOUR WISH, but not supported by reality and again, a nothing comment by
the sad, sad little ZERO.

Apple was in the computer biz before Dell. What you're seeing is what happens
when price cutting is your ultimate goal. There's a limit beyond which you can't
go when it comes to hammering suppliers for lower prices. Sooner or later
something has to give and apparently it did with Dell. But it was a good ride
and for the sake of the Windows users, Dell should get by.
--
Regards,
JimP
"The measure of a man is what he will do while
expecting that he will get nothing in return!"
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